kOk dEvELoPmEnT SeCrEts

[Ian]

Any body can share kok development secrets...like having another LH in a divided tank for sparing against your male LH upon...protein rich food like SW and MW...those things...How about putting a mirror in the water to reflect the LH's own....?

[RiCkY]

I believe this totally depends on the genes. But if proper water management is maintained it is possible to produce a large kok.

BTW, anybody know where I can buy sodium bicarbonate? *I'm experimenting on my LH, will explain soon. *;D ;D

[Jesto]

Pre, sodium bicarbonate should be available in supermarkets. *That's the main ingredient of baking powder BUT most of them also contain ammonium bicarbonate which may be toxic to your fish. *Go to the baking section and look for pure sodium bicarbonate. *Check mo ingredients. *Try mo rin Mercury drug.

Balak mo taasan pH?

[Jesto]

Pre, go to the Asia Food Expo sa World Trade Center next week. *There would be a LOT of suppliers of sodium bicarbonate. *Baka makahingi ka ng free sample. *Sabihin mo na lang may maliit kang bakery.

[pikoy]

I believe this totally depends on the genes. But if proper water management is maintained it is possible to produce a large kok.

BTW, anybody know where I can buy sodium bicarbonate? *I'm experimenting on my LH, will explain soon. *;D ;D

If my chemistry memory serves me right, think sodium bicarbonate is pure baking soda in leymans laguange. check it out.
:o :o

[RiCkY]

Taasan ko pH levels, lagi 7.0 pH level ko increase ko to 8.0

[Ian]

Pre, try mo na lang beach corals/shells bought from a landscaper/garden shop. What you just do is sanitize it with lots of salt and let it sit in a tub of water...just stir it while its sitting do it about two times until water clears..its best that you sit it out for 2 days before you actually put it in the filter box or dump it in the tank as substrate. *

[RiCkY]

Pre, try mo na lang beach corals/shells bought from a landscaper/garden shop. What you just do is sanitize it with lots of salt and let it sit in a tub of water...just stir it while its sitting do it about two times until water clears..its best that you sit it out for 2 days before you actually put it in the filter box or dump it in the tank as substrate. *

Did that na pre, still 7.0 pH. *Placed the coral in filter box, ayaw ko as substrate dangerous for fish baka masugatan. I'm just experimenting with a couple of LH though.
;D

[Ian]

Wow talaga? what was your PH before you added the corals/shells? Ag tindi nung ph lowering agents ng tank mo ha....how much you change water ba and how often? Kasi ammonia and nitrites also lower PH....while your corals only did buffering action not increasing the PH....

[RiCkY]

I do 30% water changes 2 to 3 times a week. *I have my secrets din to maintain a pH level of 6.7 or 6.8 pH....just wanted to see what would happen to LH pag mababa ang pH. :P

[JON]

mga pare, tingin ko effective yung corals for raising the ph. Kasi i have a male fh in a 100gals tank(kasama nya mga fronts)ang bilis mag kok,kala ko dahil mas malaki *** tank nya and territory. Baka *** corals ang pampalaki ng kok. Tingin nyo? Puro crushed corals kasi ang substrate ko e.

[RiCkY]

pH plays a very important part in LH development both for the nunchal hump & body colour. *:)

[Ian]

I also use a mix of brown pebbles, corals, and zeolithe chips as substrate for my LH and other cichlids they do really great.... *

[Rod]

BTW, anybody know where I can buy sodium bicarbonate? *I'm experimenting on my LH, will explain soon. *;D ;D You can get at HI-Q COMMERCIAL, along Jose Abad Santos (almost infront ng public school) from QC going Manila sa Right Side... USP grade yun, per 25kgs nga lang bentahan for less that P300.00

[RiCkY]

You can get at HI-Q COMMERCIAL, along Jose Abad Santos (almost infront ng public school) from QC going Manila sa Right Side... USP grade yun, per 25kgs nga lang bentahan for less that P300.00


Ok thanks!!! *Open kaya sila sa Sundays?

[Rod]

Ok thanks!!! *Open kaya sila sa Sundays?

Nope, Monday to Saturday lang *:(

[zsazsa]

hi...just read ur forum. *actually baguhan lang ako sa pag-hobby ng aquarium. i have 3 FL. *but as i read about what u guys are talking about, like the ph levels, naguluhan na ko sa pag aalaga ng fish. *what is ph ba? *sorry really dont knw this. *what does ph do to the fish? *how will u know level of ph? does ph level need to higher or lower? *sorry uli wala me alam pa masyado eh hope you can help me. *thanks a lot ;)

[RiCkY]

hi...just read ur forum. *actually baguhan lang ako sa pag-hobby ng aquarium. i have 3 FL. *but as i read about what u guys are talking about, like the ph levels, naguluhan na ko sa pag aalaga ng fish. *what is ph ba? *sorry really dont knw this. *what does ph do to the fish? *how will u know level of ph? does ph level need to higher or lower? *sorry uli wala me alam pa masyado eh hope you can help me. *thanks a lot ;)


Hi Welcome to the forum!!! pH is the softness or hardness of your water. *When it comes to LH there is a debate, some say that if your pH is low the color of your fish will standout, if your pH is high the kok will grow big. We Since I guess your also from manila we have a uniform ph level of 7.0. *We don't really have to worry to much about pH 'cause our water is pretty suited for fish keeping.
For me, my ph level as of now is 7.6, I increased it using sodium bicarbonate. *Since your new to fish keeping I wouldn't try this method without supervision from an experienced fish keeper. *If you want to increase your pH add coral chips, if you want to lower your pH use peatmoss. *Be sure to have a pH tester on hand. *

[zsazsa]

oh i see. *thnx sa advise mo. *ya m fr manila din. *ive been keeping my aquarium for a year na and have aro and oscars. *but its only now that i tried this flowerhorn. *it was introduced to me by our malaysian friend. *ang cute nya thats why im doing more research about it coz i want to expand my knowldg about lh handling. *thanks a lot for the advise good day *:) :) :)

[zsazsa]

question : *which petshop do i go to see lots and lots of flowerhorn? i've been to catrimar, 1 pet shop dun ang nakitaan ko ng gamda fl eh. *where is aquaticare? * ??? thanks uli

[Charles]

Hi!

We only recommend for the mean time Sams Lagoon at Banawe cor. Retiro and Aquaticare at Don Egea St., near New York St., Cubao both in Q.C.

We don't allow anybody to post petshops name here. We will post a list of pet shops in the near future. The petshop will be only be listed if they gave discounts to PALHS members. So, as of today, we only recommend Sams and Aquaticare coz they already giving discounts to PALHS members. Hope you understand...

But I'm sure when you visit these petshops specially Sams, you'll be happy with those beautiful LH they are selling.

Good Luck!

[anton]

Re the mirror... *I read in one of the LH sites that it serves as an illution that there is another LH beside it/him/her, that may induce the kok to come out. *Can anyone conccur?(tama ba spelling?) :-/ *I just have a Queston...? *If I have a couple of LH in one tank w/ dividers, will it be the same as having a mirror??? ???

[zsazsa]

charles, thanks for giving those addresses. *ill be visiting it one of these days. *are they open on a Sunday? *hope they do. *question uli for you......if in case in the future, i'll be importing flowerhorns,to which shops would you recommend for me to distribute? *do i have to ba a member of the PALHS to import these fishes? *my friend intends to supply manila for this flowerhorns coz he saw some shops here (with NO BEARING luohans eh). *so we thought of supplying it here. he even attended the recent competition there in malaysia. *pls. guide me para dumami rin ang mga luohans here. *i've downloaded all sorts of luohan pictures and it really made me crazy, at heto nag iisip to import it here.what do u think? * :)

[Charles]

Hi!

Yes, they are open on Sundays and upto 9 pm. Both of them.

For the shops to distribute, we can talk privately about that. Instant message or IM me na lang. I invite you to be a member of PALHS. It will greatly benefit you and your future plans. We can help you in many ways regarding that plans of yours. We also want good LH to come here in the Philippines not just rejects or "tira-tira", so your plan will be a great help to all.

Regards,

[pikoy]

Hi!

Yes, they are open on Sundays and upto 9 pm. Both of them.

For the shops to distribute, we can talk privately about that. Instant message or IM me na lang. I invite you to be a member of PALHS. It will greatly benefit you and your future plans. We can help you in many ways regarding that plans of yours. We also want good LH to come here in the Philippines not just rejects or "tira-tira", so your plan will be a great help to all.

Regards,

Quality LH but at an affordable price, we know that good LH doesn't come in cheap but not to the point na masyado ng raket yun price.

;D ;D

[Ian]

oh i see. *thnx sa advise mo. *ya m fr manila din. *ive been keeping my aquarium for a year na and have aro and oscars. *but its only now that i tried this flowerhorn. *it was introduced to me by our malaysian friend. *ang cute nya thats why im doing more research about it coz i want to expand my knowldg about lh handling. *thanks a lot for the advise good day *:) :) :)

Hi zsazsa! We seldom have female fish fanatics and I'm glad you came to our forum. I also invite you to be a member - text me sometime about FH care and even sourcing - 09178373196. Welcome aboard and may you continue to enjoy your hobby...BTW, whats your arowana? Good luck! * *

[Ian]

Yes having a mirror is also a good way to induce LH agression and thus the kok. I hope my theory is right hehehe!. *;D

[zsazsa]

hey guys, thanks for ol ur reply!!!! truly, i feel at ease now talking to you here. Thanks too ;) for inviting me to be a member of palhs ;)Charles, ill be contacting u one of this day for the shops na mapagsuplyan ko. *Don't worry, if in case matuloy and plan ko to bring good luohans here, it will definitely be a good class A one at a good price. thanks a lot for welcoming me. *

I have only silver aro and 2 red blood oscars and some cichlids. *In the past namatayan ako ng 1 malaysian and 1 australian gold aros kaya medyo nafrustrate ako. *That was when i'm still starting sa pagaquarium. *Then i stopped kasi "masakit" sa kalooban ko at sa bulsa ko hehehehehe. *Then after a while luohan was introduced to me, that's when i started getting crazy with this fish. *

okay guys, ill get intouch with you next time. *thanx a lot ;) ;) :D *

[kokgod]

ang secret po ng malaking kok e yung budget nyo...yun lang po..

[chinaman]

ang secret po ng malaking kok e yung budget nyo...yun lang po..

it's in the genes ba? wala sa pagkain hehehehe...

[rens]

it's in the genes ba? wala sa pagkain hehehehe...

depende po kung gano kalalim bulsa mo, madami ka pagpipilian na malalaking kok:D

[tszycksz]

depende po kung gano kalalim bulsa mo, madami ka pagpipilian na malalaking kok:D

totoo ang sabi ni, sir rens. nice flowerhorn comes with a price.